Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/30/2001 02:04 PM House FIN

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CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 19(HES)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  relating to  federal child support  enforcement                                                                   
     requirements    regarding    social   security    number                                                                   
     information,  employer  reports   about  employees,  and                                                                   
     certain kinds of automated  data matching with financial                                                                   
     institutions; repealing the  termination date of changes                                                                   
     made  by  ch. 87,  SLA  1997,  and  ch. 132,  SLA  1998,                                                                   
     regarding   child   support  enforcement   and   related                                                                   
     programs;  repealing  the nonseverability  provision  of                                                                   
     ch. 132,  SLA 1998;  repealing uncodified laws  relating                                                                   
     to  ch.  87,  SLA  1997,  and ch.  132,  SLA  1998;  and                                                                   
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA   MIKLOS,   DIRECTOR,   CHILD   SUPPORT   ENFORCEMENT                                                                   
DIVISION, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE  provided information  on SB
19  (HES).   Congress passed  welfare  reform legislation  in                                                                   
1996. The  legislation's intent was  to reduce the  number of                                                                   
people receiving  public assistance. Regulations  relating to                                                                   
work and  child support  programs were  initiated to  support                                                                   
reforms. States  were required to  pass laws to  help collect                                                                   
child  support. Alaska  passed  laws in  response to  federal                                                                   
requirements in 1996  - 1998 and were compliant  with federal                                                                   
requirements.  She maintained  that  the  programs have  been                                                                   
effective.  The state  collected  and dispersed  $81  million                                                                   
dollars in  child support.  In 2000  the state collected  $85                                                                   
million  dollars  and  it  expects  to  collect  $91  million                                                                   
dollars in  the current year.  She observed that  legislation                                                                   
passed in  1997 and  1998 would sunset  in the current  year.                                                                   
The  law  has  to be  reenacted  to  continue  the  programs.                                                                   
Without  these programs  the state  could be  in jeopardy  of                                                                   
losing all  the money that goes  to child support  and public                                                                   
assistance: $70 million dollars.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos  discussed  provisions of the  bill. She  observed                                                                   
that the Senate  placed a 5-year sunset on the  use of social                                                                   
security  numbers  on  applications and  the  financial  data                                                                   
match program.  These were  changed to  a two-year  sunset in                                                                   
the  House  Health  and Social  Service  Committee.  Two  new                                                                   
provisions were also  added. Section 11 would  provide that a                                                                   
violation does  not give rise  to a private cause  of action.                                                                   
This  means  that  a private  individual  could  not  sue  an                                                                   
employer  that  did not  properly  report. Section  12  would                                                                   
prevent the  situation where three  payrolls are  received in                                                                   
one  month from  resulting  in a  shortage  on the  following                                                                   
month.  Extra  payments  in  one  month  would  be  held  and                                                                   
accounted against the subsequent month.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Miklos   explained  that   provisions  removing   social                                                                   
security numbers from statutes take affect in 2003.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Miklos noted  that the  Division's would  prefer not  to                                                                   
have a sunset date on any of the provisions.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies observed that  use of social  security                                                                   
numbers  referenced  in  sections  1  - 10  are  required  by                                                                   
federal  law.  Ms.  Miklos  did   not  know  of  any  pending                                                                   
legislation to change federal requirements.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Mulder  asked  if the  legislation  meets  all  the                                                                   
requirements of  the federal guidelines. Ms.  Miklos affirmed                                                                   
that the  legislation would bring  the state into  compliance                                                                   
for the next two years.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  suggested that the two-year  sunset might be                                                                   
good with the  complexity of the provisions  contained in the                                                                   
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  John  Davies  asked  how  long  the  existing                                                                   
provisions  have  been  in  place, if  there  have  been  any                                                                   
problems  and  if  they  have   been  effective.  Ms.  Miklos                                                                   
responded  that the provisions  have been  in effect  for the                                                                   
last 3 years. There have been  no problems and they have been                                                                   
helpful.  She  acknowledged  that there  have  been  concerns                                                                   
expressed by individuals,  but there have not  been a problem                                                                   
in any cases.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Davies MOVED  to amend the legislation by                                                                   
deleting "2003" and inserting  "2006" on line 16, page 6. Co-                                                                   
Chair Williams OBJECTED for the purpose of discussion.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  John Davies argued  that the legislation  has                                                                   
been effective  and that the  use of social security  numbers                                                                   
is essential in  making the connections between  cases. There                                                                   
doesn't seem to be any change  in the federal requirement and                                                                   
the state would be out of compliance  if the requirement were                                                                   
deleted.  The  use  of  social   security  numbers  has  been                                                                   
effective in getting payments  to children. He noted that the                                                                   
provisions have worked for the  past three years and that the                                                                   
Senate agreed  to a  2006 sunset  date. Co-Chair Mulder  felt                                                                   
more comfortable  with the 2003 sunset date.  He acknowledged                                                                   
that the division  has done a good job, but noted  that it is                                                                   
a contentions  issue and  asserted that it  would be  good to                                                                   
review it in two years.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote  was taken  on the  motion  to change  the                                                                   
sunset date to "2006".                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Lancaster, Davies                                                                                                     
OPPOSED:  Hudson,  Whitaker,  Bunde, Croft,  Harris,  Mulder,                                                                   
Williams                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representatives Moses and Foster were absent from the vote.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bunde  MOVED to  report HCS CSSB  19 (HES)  out of                                                                   
Committee with  the accompanying fiscal note.  There being NO                                                                   
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HCS CSSB  19(HES) was  REPORTED out of  Committee with  a "do                                                                   
pass"  recommendation and  with a  previously published  zero                                                                   
fiscal note (#2) by the Department of Revenue.                                                                                  

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